Friday, December 28

ME

An assignment requires me to write "who am I"

I borrow a few words to describe myself...

Sri bhagawan uvacha

I am the Supersoul, O Arjuna, seated in the hearts of all living entities. I am the beginning, the middle and the end of all beings. Of the Âdityas I am Vishnu, of lights I am the radiant sun, ....and among the stars I am the moon
Of the Vedas I am the Sama Veda; of the senses I am the mind...
Of all the Rudras I am Lord S'iva...
Of the great sages I am Bhrigu; of words I am the transcendental om...... and of immovable things I am the Himalayas....and among men I am the monarch...
....of all the regulators I am also Yama, the controller of death.....of what rules I am the Time
...Of purifiers I am the wind, of the Kshatriyas I am Rama, of fishes I am the shark, and of flowing rivers I am the Ganges...
Of all creations I am the beginning and the end and also the middle, O Arjuna.
Of all sciences I am the spiritual science of the self, and among logicians I am the conclusive truth....
Of the means of suppression I am the clout, I am the morality of those who seek victory, the silence I am of all secrets, and of the wise I am the knowledge

Of whatever that of all the beings may exist I am the source, O Arjuna; nothing of the moving and unmoving exists without Me.

21 comments:

Zee said...

i am....errrr......the gin in the gin soaked boy???

dubito, ergo cogito, ergo sum said...

well, Gnothe Seauton...

Arpz said...

@zee - you have attained the Supreme Bliss already :D

@dubito, ergo cogito, ergo sum - isnt that the journey all about?

dubito, ergo cogito, ergo sum said...

i dunno, ok this is just my opinion...
the 'journey' most folks talk about is just a farce, too romanticized to give it a deeper meaning....

ok, i'll give you my take on god.
by the end of this rant you might know what am trying to say..

rt, here we go…

There are hundreds of people, too many faiths...and so each one to his god. But people say their 'god' is not just the right, but the only one.

Well, that cant be true coz if that was the case a lot many others wouldn’t have had their prayers answered. So basically the ‘God theory’ doesn’t hold good.

But then how do things work? how do people pray and get what they asked for?? so here comes faith... at the cost of sounding ridiculous, lemme say that *faith* gets things done for you.. and not god.

one's true belief that he/she will be 'protected' and 'provided' for stems from faith (faith in err… god). Now what’s faith? Where does faith lie?

Obviously, within you, within oneself. You developed and nurtured it.

If that’s something you have within you, then the power to make things ‘work’ is of course within yourself. That would mean ‘YOU’ are ‘GOD’.

Well agreed, it’s a tall statement, but then if you simplify ‘god’ to mean someone who has the keys to everything and the all powerful who could move things, it could as well mean that you if you believed in yourself enough, you could do what you expect god to do.

So basically YOU are the key to the world. You know it all, and you are the supreme ego, but just that you don’t realize it, its that you have so many doubts about yourself that its easier to trust someone else. And so theres god. And so theres you.

I wonder if you need a whole journey to work that out. Probably what life should teach someone is that you are a nobody… and a million other souls will exist without them. When that wave of humbleness hits them, they realize that they knew it all along, and they knew all the answers… as some one said, ‘all this? To what ends?’

the whole world is an enigma, a harmless enigma that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it as though it had an underlying truth.


Sorry for rambling on for long… I don’t have a blog and so I go around dirtying other’s ;)

cheers

dubito, ergo cogito, ergo sum said...

well am sorry, am terrible at writin, so i wonder if it came out the way i wanted...


and its just an opinion :) so if ya are a believer , and if thats what works for you... thats how you find yourself .

arpana said...

@dubito, ergo cogito, ergo sum ..

agreed. I just put in that statement there just so that. Personally I dont believe in the journey. I mean whats so great about it all? at the end of it, Im gonna die, no matter how I lived (or not). and about saying "you are god" .. the scriptures, or atleast the guy who wrote them deciphered it long back and thats why he says "tat twam asi" or "aham brahmasmi". "God" is an illusion created by man for himself just to keep up the pompous importance he wants. (not sure if you can open this link - but try it, I write about how much of a farce everything is, here - http://nomorewriting.blogspot.com/2007/02/beliefs.html)

dubito, ergo cogito, ergo sum said...

so true. but why do i get the feeling that stumbling upon that idea made you a lil grumpy and lose the will to live ? is it coz of 'to wat ends'?

am kiddin...;) ... well only a bit


abt the blog...
pity i cant ...

well, i'll let you know, prolly pretty soon, about the blog of mine ( that i ve been plannin to start for the past 4 years, ever since i had to stop writing after creatively exhausting myself over a four page piece on existentialism) and then you can invite me, wot say?


err..., the existentialism bit is true, but by bringin it up, i was just showin off...

well its kinda relevant if ya think abt it.. hmm

arpana said...

dubito, ergo cogito, ergo sum ...
On the contrary, that idea has helped shrug the false pretence and the idea of "tomorrow" away. It has helped me see that "learning from mistakes" is not always required.. in face even "learning" isnt needed. What is needed is freedom, freedom to die your death and not be plagued by regrets and think of the life "unlived" on the death bed and wish for more time so that you could re-do some things all over again.

and as for the blog, try accessing it. Ive just removed the restriction on it.

dubito, ergo cogito, ergo sum said...

well thanX, i read that and i had this smile on my face. (an 'amused' smile, i guess u know wat i mean.. hmm... well u might not know as well)

freedom to die a death of no regrets? well alrite, thats acceptable.. but when you say that you would wish to be free of the thot of havin a go at life again...dont ya think ya might be just lyin to yourself? i dunno, i felt so coz i wud be...

btw, theres something i wish to say about tomorrow... and the will to live...i thought i'll ask you if it wud be fine if i posted a comment on the other blog.. well its kinda long.. :)

see i havent had a good conversation in a long time .. what a loser ;)

arpana said...

dubito, ergo cogito, ergo sum...
go ahead and post it on that, but since you've read that post, I'll be removing permissions on it soon, so I doubt you will be able to read my reply.
so it would be easier for you if you posted it here rather than there.

dubito, ergo cogito, ergo sum said...

Well honestly, you gonna be sorry for lettin me do this ;)


alritey, most of it, i do agree..

but..hmm.. ok, about Tomorrow.

there are two takes on this, the happy people's tomorrow and the sad one's tomorrow.

Tomorrows arnt always expected to be sunny…. why do some people save? Well I guess because they expect things to go awry…Reason overrides religion and beliefs.. or is it conditioning? i dunno.

But people, who are happy, have always been vary of tomorrow, lest tomorrow bring 'em sorrow (which somehow tomorrow manages to, almost as if it could smell their fear). Yet they want a tomorrow coz they could live as happily as they have been living. So its not always failures or sorrow that makes you want a tomorrow…

The disappointed one’s tomorrow…. I wont talk abt that coz u know it and ve written about it.

I ve spoken abt tomorrow coz that might help you understand this better:

I ve been thinking for ages about why and what is the whole frigging purpose of life? When I was in my teens I used to think that, Whoa! I gotta give my life a meaning, am here to prove some shit, help people… and lotta similar crap. All it did was boost my ego, and I thot, hey am this punk! Gods chosen one. Well, Well I see you all are smiling and thinking , ‘heh wat a loser’ coz u know YOU are the chosen one ;). So, you see, I found out how ridiculous it was. Well, something along the lines of , ‘there’s only one bful kid in the whole world, and every mom has it’.

Well then I thot, if that’s not the case, why shud I live? Honestly, I had a very happy childhood. Though I was, then , the only kid, though I used to play alone, and though I used to talk to myself a lot, I had a happy childhood. In my early twenties I barely stayed above troubled waters… I had long bad patches, death and the like. Well, but then I had, had an amazing time bein a teen….I experimented (as I wud like to say ;)) with wateva one might call ‘unholy’(?). And I was done with life. No, no, don’t mistake that for any suicidal tendencies… just done with life. Whats the whole point in livin when am gonna die? Whats the big deal abt makin money, I aint gonna take a bit of it when I go? Why a wife, I have had women and I know what its to be with ‘em and I know what sex tastes like? Why children? (oh, btw I guess for men , havin a kid is the all time ego-high and also a chance of having a tomorrow he didn’t prolly have). So why live? Why not die? To tell you the truth, I wasn’t scared of tryin it out, but then I had this doubt whether I was just an escapist, scared of shit hitting the ceiling some day… and also wondered if death was just a black empty box whats the whole point?

Then it hit me, its not coz I want these things, its not coz I had a sad/happy past, neither do I hope for a better tomorrow… but just that I loved being alive. I don’t mind death tomorrow, but I wouldnt trade an extra minute of my life for a peaceful death. I believe that without sorrows, I wouldnt have know what happiness is. Am not scared of them, I don’t plan. But I love the beauty that life is… so F’ing amazing!!!! There’s no illusion and am contented. There have been ups and downs and that’s been part of my life…and am happy with that. Tomorrow I die, but then I would see tomorrow and am sure I’ll like it as much as I liked yesterday.
If I, that miniscule of unimportance, think so, am sure there are millions out there who think alike and looks forward for a tomorrow, without a shadow of illusion clouding their self…

But my friend, if you have been hurt or happy, detachment is the key… so I’ve learnt.


*bows*



p.s: I used 50 ‘I’ and ‘am’s in this lousy piece, talk about me bein a ‘miniscule’ ;)

arpana said...

well, Im not sorry I let you do this at all, in fact its good to have another talk about his look at life.

okay living life with all its emotions, upheavals, roller coaster rides all if fun, only if you are involved in it. If you are watching it like a bystander watching a drunken brawl, everything loses its meaning. Whats sorrow and what is happiness? what is anger and wat is forgiveness? everything is one and the same.
To me, life is like that. I go through the motions of life, I feel nostalgic, I feel happy, I feel sad, but I also am a bystander, I am so detached from everything I experience myself, for I know nothing is permanent, everything is transient. To me right now, the only permanence I can see is in death, but Im not sure if this is permanent too or not.... but right now, it does look so. So I amble my way through life being amused at all its gyrations towards death.
just that sometimes I get a li'l tired of living and being amused of it.

dubito, ergo cogito, ergo sum said...

heh, i get wat you are saying...

well ofcourse everything is transient. still we live our lives as if we and the transient things of the world were permanent.
prolly we see this most clearly when we suffer loss. If our partner/lover decides to leave us, we get upset because having believed in eternal romance, we can’t cope with the inevitable transience. but then the reality of physical existence is that we and our senses have always been in motion/change and gradual dissolution.

i dont want to ask you anythin personal, but then whatever you have said do not arise out of just looking at life bein meaningless or it not being permanent.. anyway thats what i feel.

well assume you are dead, and imagine that you get to see life down on earth from where ever you are perched now, dont you think you would wanna come down and prolly take a walk again when the sun slants its yellow evening rays through those leaves..and you can hear that bful ole hindi song playing somewer far away... evokin some painfully-sweet memory? what if, from where you are now(read dead), u dont feel it?

if you are really tired , travel :) meet interesting people. fall in love, atleast for a while :)

coz taking your life now wont really help i guess :)
just my thots

arpana said...

well, it isnt about a partner or a boy friend if thats what you want to ask. I am blissfully single; and I love it being single. It gives me better control over looking at life the way I want to.
and no, actually I would not want to. I enjoy every moment,true. I clap my hands in glee at a butterfly spreading its wings, I look in awe at an airplane in the sky, I hold funny "good luck charm moments" so I live every moment. I am sad when I am, I wail out loud, I am boisterous when Im happy, I sing out in ecstasy, only that a part of me knows all this is just - well, non existent, if you say so, it is "maya" and it is transient; I live life, but I also watch it from my sidelanes.

Not sure if I make sense though.

dubito, ergo cogito, ergo sum said...

ok... i still ve access to your blog ... since am this curious ass, if you dont want me to read further, you may.... ;)

though i wudnt mind, honestly :D

oh, btw, i had pasted a song for ya to check out in one of your ole posts here... i guess its in 'the favor' thread... do catch the movie if ya can.

dubito, ergo cogito, ergo sum said...

u do, u sure do.

but 'to wat ends' is always a dampener.. i agree.

but, i ve since gathered that you got long life to live (oh i read another of thread in the other blog), so let be ;)

and you should watch from the sidelines as well, that makes people less self centered, or so i ve heard ;) well atleast it made me a lot less competitive, it eats up half your passion and life repetitive so that u just want it to end.. coz ya know all this is just grand crap. but i dont wanna get bogged down :) i dont want to be anybody, am not special so i'll just live life like anyother ordinary man...

if you are in india its about time for that late evening party i guess? wine, and fake wishes? am kiddin.. but thats just it ;)

dubito, ergo cogito, ergo sum said...

another of your thread*

Arpz said...

since im too lazy to type in "I doubt therefore I think ....) I'll just call you Rene (:P)

//i still ve access to your blog
thats alright, no one reads it anyways, it isnt too personal, it was up on the public domain once, but I guess I got tired of it later.

// makes you less self centred
*sigh* try explaining it to my mom, she thinks Im retarded.

// india its about time for that late evening party i guess? wine, and fake wishes?
I dont do any of the above. and yes I am in India. its 11:43 PM and Im in front of my comp ; in short a L-O-S-E-R :D

dubito, ergo cogito, ergo sum said...

heh, well anything u please :)

alrite check this out, its 12 in india am stuck in the shithole of UK, stoke. (though by choice...)

well in front of my laptop...and practically nuthin else to do... just a lil bit of vodka, a few ciggs and thats it...

another loser ;)

hey btw, u ve a great year ahead, and hope ya will just lose urself in *life*.... again... :)

Arpz said...

@ Rene;

Whew! you sure do read a lot, dont you? just saw your comment on the other blog as well.... and as for being a loser, well - no vodka or ciggs here, its new year in India and Im at office :P
and you have a great year too and I hope to lose myself in life too ... now, if only Abhishek Bachchan also agreed to get lost with me :D
BTW, if u think commenting is too much of a pain, you can always add me onto Gtalk at the Id in the blog page.

dubito, ergo cogito, ergo sum said...

well guilty as charged, am just too curious and well also bored...

heh, about abhishek bachchan, i guess a lot of 'em will pray for ya .. am sure if Vivek comes across this , he definitely will ;)

i dont think commenting is a pain , am quite happy to air my views;) but am honoured and have sent you a request :)